Hello,

Recently I was forced to take ownership of my servers here on Gametracker due to a user posting an unwanted message on the server's page (I couldn't delete it without owning it). Unfortunately this enabled player stat tracking. This is ruining my servers because instead of playing the gametypes on my servers players are playing the 'Gametrackers game' of who can be top of the list. Now, instead of playing the objectives (capture, hold and defend) players are purely interested in points. This is ruining my servers!!!

I never asked for Gametrackers interference in how my servers are run, and I don't want it, and I would like you to remove my servers from Gametrackers before this unwanted interference kills them...

This Gametracker user account is not the one that is currently listed as owning it, as I deleted that account in an attempt to remove those damn stats (it didn't work!), but I can quite easily take ownership with this account if you are willing to delete the servers when I do so...

So, if I give you the server details and take ownership with this account, can you delete my servers from gametracker please? Or at the very least, remove those server-killing stats?

Thank You.

(UPDATE: I am now the owner of the servers...)

1. Gametracker does not delete servers upon request.
2. I do understand your point about it changing players' attitudes, however;
3. Gametracker is in no way "interfering" in how your servers are run.
4. If you again take ownership of the servers, you can delete them yourself from the 'Manage' page.
You can then opt to add them back, without taking ownership, but unfortunately we cannot stop someone else from adding them again.

If you want to ensure that they are not added back, you can use your firewall to block Gametracker scanner servers;
GameTracker scanner IP addresses

if you are wandering how to block Gametracker scanner servers :

1) open your iptables rules (file).
2) add this lines :

-A INPUT -s 208.167.241.190 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 208.167.241.185 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 208.167.241.186 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 208.167.241.183 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 208.167.241.189 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 108.61.78.147 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 108.61.78.148 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 108.61.78.149 -j DROP
-A INPUT -s 108.61.78.150 -j DROP

Then save the file
Open your ssh tool and add this command :
Service iptables restart

chimaera500 wrote:
4. If you again take ownership of the servers, you can delete them yourself from the 'Manage' page.
You can then opt to add them back, without taking ownership, but unfortunately we cannot stop someone else from adding them again.



I don't have that option: in the 'Manage' page in the 'Delete Server' option it reads: "Cannot delete servers with this source type.". If you could remove my ownership of said servers (which would stop the recording of player stats, I'm guessing) then that would suffice...

chimaera500 wrote:
If you want to ensure that they are not added back, you can use your firewall to block Gametracker scanner servers;
GameTracker scanner IP addresses



When I said "my servers" I meant my 'rented' servers.. I have no access to my GSP's firewall settings. I should have been clearer, sorry.


Thanks.

UPDATE:

Both of our servers are now closed. Why? Here's why...

Our servers were 'Fun Servers' - however good or bad you were it didn't matter because at the end of the game all traces of your performance was unrecorded and forgotten history. That was until Gametracker refused to remove persistant player stats from the server's Gametracker page. Then, instead of playing for fun on our servers, the game became the 'Gametracker Leaderboard' game. Players stopped playing the gametypes as they should be played and instead played in whatever way would earn them the most points and lift their rank on Gametracker. This has killed the fun aspect of the server. Any and every gametype was ruined by players doing their own thing for points. Essentially, every gametype was played like Team Deathmatch...

So thank you, whoever you people are, for parasitically attaching yourself to MY product and destroying it for your own personal/business gain.

I hope you're proud of yourselves for a) causing the problem, and b) doing nothing when I brought it to your attention.

I have referred this matter and your parasitic business practices to people with a lot more weight than I.

Goodbye and good riddance!

We do not have the functionality to disable stats on an ad hoc basis.

At any time you could have deleted and re-added your server, without taking ownership so as to leave player stats disabled as previously explained above.

I am sorry you have caused yourself such misery by failing to follow the simple advice offered.

Helpful suggestion: You may wish to look up the meaning of the word 'parasitic' in the dictionary.

What part of "I don't have that option" didn't you understand?

Parasite: a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

I never gave you permission to earn Ad revenue by reporting data from my servers - a private venture that has nothing to do with your venture. Now you can argue your right to do so, fine, but the fact that you do is beyond debatable. How much of that profit from peddling my information do I get? Nothing, of course.

So you earn profit off the back of me and my servers - how is that not the very definition of parasitic behaviour?

Reeducate yourself on the meaning of words before try to lecture others.

Gametracker offers a free service - as is.

If you do not like the services on offer, you are free to delete your servers and your account at any time.

You were given support and information to cover ALL THE AVAILABLE OPTIONS.

There ARE no other options.

By its very definition, the host of a parasite is not a willing participant in the relationship.
By the act of keeping your servers registered and remaining a member, you have entered into a symbiotic relationship.
You, unlike the host of the parasite, are free to break from the relationship at any time without any penalty or cost to yourself.

ETA
Just to make it perfectly clear - I am paid exactly nothing, and receive no special benefits whatsoever for offering the best advice I am able on how to use the website and forums.
Not terribly parasitic behaviour.

chimaera500 wrote:
If you do not like the services on offer, you are free to delete your servers and your account at any time.


No no NO! How many times do I have to keep telling you that the 'Delete Server' option is NOT available? It is a ghosted button! It says "Cannot delete servers with this source type.". I have told you this 3 times now! (see post #4 onwards).

chimaera500 wrote:
By its very definition, the host of a parasite is not a willing participant in the relationship.

I am not a willing participant. I did not want your services. But I was unable to remove Gametracker's influence on my server (hence this thread). I have been trying to remove your influence from my server for some time now without success, which (following even YOUR logic) qualifies as a parasite. I have, for some time now, been metaphorically rubbing my shell against a rock to remove you, without success. But let me correct you: many creatures that have other organisms attached to them are indifferent as long as they are not suffering any negative affect (as was I), and many seem blissfully unaware that there passenger will ultimately kill them. I suspect you have tightened your definition of parasite to fit your narrative, but either way, you are plain wrong regardless, as the evidence that you were unwanted is right here in this thread (see post #1 onwards).

As for the reason I registered, I explained the reason in my initial post which was to remove a user comment that was attacking the server - do you think that simple act is unreasonable? Am I now participating in the very act I am complaining about? If Gametracker was being attacked with untrue allegations on some website would you not sign up to that website and ask them to remove the defaming post? Would the act of signing up mean you are a willing participant in whatever that website did or did not do? Your logic is flawed, Sir.

chimaera500 wrote:
Just to make it perfectly clear - I am paid exactly nothing, and receive no special benefits whatsoever for offering the best advice I am able on how to use the website and forums.
Not terribly parasitic behaviour.



You are conflating YOUR personal relationship to Gametracker with Gametracker's influence on my server - the two are unrelated. Whether paid or unpaid you are my only line of communication on this forum. My allegation was clearly not directed at you personally, and you have nothing to do with my complaint. I was certainly not saying that you, chimaera500, are a parasite - that is just plain ridiculous.

What I do have a problem with, against you, personally, is your inability to read my posts. Even when I have pointed out a second time that you are mistaken, you STILL don't read my posts. And here, this reply, you have yet again failed to read what I wrote.

To be clear: I am not interested in you, chimaera500, why would I be? My interest was (past tense) in the negative affect YOUR service was having on MY server. If you do bother to respond to this post, then please stop trying to change the subject to you, and DO read what I have wrote (twice if needed).