in all justice, someone has to assume responsibility for Rowdy's action.....he is not new to the community, he knows better than to allow bile spaming in a finale......why then, must other players suffer, for example, i read a post were a top ranking non-member was banned for spaming.....well classic case here, even more serious because admin. have to take responsibility for there actions...this is a reflection on the Clan's ethics. If you do not terminate Rowdy's admin. powers, then you have to unban every player within Rowdys first day of memembership induction into the Clan....I am in no way telling your leader what to do but this guy has crashed games and is a fanatic about points, he calls it fun, fun is when you fight and not hide behind a fence. I know others and this is the gospel truth, that have mentioned crashing also....kindly allow justice to prevail.
Amen

let me get this off my chest...i am not the one on the hot seat her, i do consider this a very serious matter that requires immediate attention.....the Clans reputation is at stake here, for others (steak) if your hungry....think about it, the Clan shouldn't tolerate this behavior...i have played with other admin. and have not seen this immaturity at all.....you got a clown that needs to be unfitted, for the sake of the Clan.

blood_kosher wrote:
the Clans reputation is at stake here

According to..............?

dude, you are lying...a few, what grade school did you go to....they were all over the place inside the room next to the saferoom, you had a cage outside on top of the hospital (no mercy game) and Rowdy had the fences in the room that you entered afterwards and spawaned the propane tanks......and as far as reviving, it was called teleport....you are a liar in this case and rest asured, no one can have fun with a person or persons as in this case that are self-centered....you are not qualified to be a Clan member......unless your 2 faced when you play with honest players

Not enough propane tanks to do any sort of damage to the server or cause any lag, let me assure you.
I revived you once by running back through the map, I remember that much. However, I have logged so much time on L4D2 between now and the game I played with you that I have forgotten many details, I will be honest about that.

Yes, we both had cages. What's wrong with that? They are a part of these servers.

Maybe I shouldn't have made so many propane tanks, sure. But it didn't cause any problems, and there were no complaints. Also, your post on the forum is the first time I have heard anything about this; you could have said something in game but you didn't.

From what it looks like you came here to complain straight to the admins rather than hash it out with the people you had problems with personally, which would have resulted in my apologizing to you.

Instead, you came here and tried to create drama, and I promise you it is not worth it.

I am sorry for whatever harm I may have caused you, whatever it was. Play with me again sometime and maybe you will see that prop spawning and the other mods can make the game exhilarating! I'll even teach you how to make some of my favorite props if you want to get into it!

wow.............DRAMA,

My view point on this is........... at my last check, their were 1,000 of servers to play on. Find the servers that best fit you and stick to them. We all play these servers to get CRAZY, anyone that has spent time with us on a regular basis, knows this all to well.....

bah bye

blood_kosher wrote:
let me get this off my chest...i am not the one on the hot seat her, i do consider this a very serious matter that requires immediate attention.....the Clans reputation is at stake here, for others (steak) if your hungry....think about it, the Clan shouldn't tolerate this behavior...i have played with other admin. and have not seen this immaturity at all.....you got a clown that needs to be unfitted, for the sake of the Clan.

Are you going overboard and blowing this all out of proportion? Yes.

Are you the one in the hot seat here? Yes.

Is the "clans reputation" at stake over this? No.

You do seem to have a beef with Rowdy and it seems your addressing of any issue you have has been presented improperly in our eyes. We do like some extremes- hordes, weapon power, etc., however, we also realize that some extremes do have adverse effects on the servers. This is why we have our rules and guidelines to help reduce problems. In some ways, we do allow our server owners and ranking admins more liberties than common players in respect to explosive containers and excessive use of some items that could crash a server. Why? Because WE PAY FOR THE SERVERS AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS.

If common players come in our servers and abuse them, we have to dealt with that. If common players come into our servers and make honest mistakes randomly, we have to deal with that. What you don't seem to understand or care about is that most of us have known each other for over a year and discuss player and server issues frequently. We have become friends and we have a good understanding of what is expected of us and those who play on our servers. We know who donates to our servers and those who don't. I can tell you that everyone who donates to our servers does so because they like our servers and how we run them and want to ensure that we keep the servers up and running the same way we have been running them. No one donates to our servers because they want special treatment or special privileges. Everyone of our respected players and admins are in those categories because they know we discuss issues and accept when we do something wrong that we make concerted efforts to improve.

Please also know that we own our own servers. If from time to time we need to "go nuts" to relieve stress on our own servers, we will do so and accept any consequences related to those events if anyone who doesn't know us perceives things differently. But when all is said and done... OUR RULES, OUR SERVERS.

I have discussed this incident and circumstances with some of the admins on hand and with Rowdy.

sounds fair and very well spoken. This explains many issues at hand and i consider this matter closed by both parts.....did not mean to offend anyone and let the games begin.....and continue to prosper..........................you are right about the fact that there are costs involved and i would me more than happy to contribute to any cause that will in fact relieve stress on any members including myself. I have arrived at the fact that we all have our days....take care Geek your a pleasure to talk to.

draggon,

when you join a server you wil get a message (motd) were rules and other usefull information is. read this. for most players it is bounded to a key as well, h i think

does anyone know if FARTS have Lumps..............