(thanks for bringing this to my attention Eugene 22 rus xD)
(well i know you think its a cheat but lets see what others think xD)

Since long time i have been seeing this command "cl_timenudge " being used on the server. For those who donno what it does well...its used to lower down/ or increase your ping that is the time taken by the server and the client to communicate .The lower the ping the better and smooth the game cl_timenudge is an old method of reducing lag.

Increasing Nudge-
Setting cl_timenudge to a positive value adds a delay of that number of milliseconds to the game controls (e.g. mouse and keyboard), but subtracts that same number of milliseconds from the lag on your display. You experience no lag on your display, but at the expense of doubling the lag on your game controls.(very few use it)

Now, as it should be clear the ping can be lowered to a maximum of -30ms (for example i have 230ms ping after nudge i will have 200 approx) . For high pingers it makes the game a little fast and the difference is hardly noticeable but for people who already have a 40ms or 30ms or 15ms ping gives them a total advantage over others because they can lower their ping to 0
yeah thats right 0 just like playing on your own server

Nudging History
back in the early times of Q3 this nudge command was considered a cheat but its no longer termed a cheat (except in clan wars and tournaments)

cutting the long story short
1.should timenudge be allowed to only high pingers
2.or should be allowed to all
3.or should be not allowed to any one.

please give your views and suggestions on this
(not attacking anyone through this topic , and no hard feelings ofc and no offtopic plz thx)

Yo m8:)
Hmm i dont care about timenudge comment to be honest.
Couple players is using it all the time and i dont really see a diffrent.
Also i dont use to use this commend but i made a test and i set -30 on Hiszy server. And nothing really changed in my game (of course only ping was better).ofcourse i understand that this commend for high pinger players is more eeee(searching a word xD)....needed:P
Should be allowed:
Hmm allowed for all or not allowed for everyone and thats the best answer for this question. If someone dont like when opponent is using this commend he should set it too and than the game will be fair:)
But like u said man... in FW OR 1VS1 game timenudge is not allowed.
Cheers!

Hi people,
for me timenudge doesn't matter because on the one hand players with a negative timenudge maybe get a better ping-feeling, but their handicap on the other hand is that enemies seem to "beam" when they quickly change their direction.
This is based on the fact that the better ping with negative timenudge is not real. The engine tries to calculate the action that probably will happen in the future, f.e. 30 ms in the future if you use timenudge -30.

Conclusion: If the timenudger beams through the map, I am against timenudge. Else it doesn't bother me.

yeah most of the time it dosent matter but Gianni even if us high pinger use -30 nudge it wont make much difference cause we would appear the same for those 15 ms to 30 ms pingers
if you know what i mean :>

yeah schneybi i am against it too i have played on one friend server here in my city and i had 0 ms ping and it was like amazingly fast freeze tag game :O and when i come here on hiszy and i have 230+ ping and playing on both the places i can feel 100% difference
cause change in ping totally changes how you play the game
everything changes your moves your strategy total change of perspective

(59 views and 2 comments! cool !really cool)

we already talked about that shankey, and I have nothing to add!

apollo-campstyle wrote:
we already talked about that shankey, and I have nothing to add!

yes apollo i remember thank you

hi all! I'm totally against timenudge, i tested it and i incremented my score in a significative way, i don't think it will be the solution for high ping!

btw -30 is not the limit, is just the actual limit set for the mod... actually you can go -50 maybe even more.

you can play at 30 too and raise your ping

let just say nowadays with fast hardware and connections timenudge isnt needed.
Yes it can help a bit for high pings with more than 120-150.

Totally useless in terms of gameplay for less than 100 ping and it fact, it will give you a fake feeling about gameplay. WIch means if you have ping 60 and you play always with timenudge -30 ( so gives you fake ping 40-45), then you will play like a shit the day you have to remove timenudge.

And yes low pingers using timenudge give unfair advantage toward non-timenudge users. I don't see why it would be the non-user to updtae himself , cause there its looks more like a light cheat than anything else.

And no, someone showing 0 ping when using timenudge doesnt have a real 0 ping. Server side check will show the true ping, while ingame is shown the fake timenudge-ping.

Your ping is related to the physical quality of your line, the distance from your ISP , and the eventual boosts your ISP gives to your connection/line to keep a clear signal.
Nothing will lower your ping for real with softwares. quake3/timnudge or dunno what exists there.
If you have high ping the only way to lower it is to go live near server.
Someone from japan playing at hiszy will always have 200+ pings with adsl, maybe 150 with fiber.

lirbig wrote:
btw -30 is not the limit, is just the actual limit set for the mod... actually you can go -50 maybe even more.

you can play at 30 too and raise your ping

let just say nowadays with fast hardware and connections timenudge isnt needed.
Yes it can help a bit for high pings with more than 120-150.

Totally useless in terms of gameplay for less than 100 ping and it fact, it will give you a fake feeling about gameplay. WIch means if you have ping 60 and you play always with timenudge -30 ( so gives you fake ping 40-45), then you will play like a shit the day you have to remove timenudge.

And yes low pingers using timenudge give unfair advantage toward non-timenudge users. I don't see why it would be the non-user to updtae himself , cause there its looks more like a light cheat than anything else.

And no, someone showing 0 ping when using timenudge doesnt have a real 0 ping. Server side check will show the true ping, while ingame is shown the fake timenudge-ping.

Your ping is related to the physical quality of your line, the distance from your ISP , and the eventual boosts your ISP gives to your connection/line to keep a clear signal.
Nothing will lower your ping for real with softwares. quake3/timnudge or dunno what exists there.
If you have high ping the only way to lower it is to go live near server.
Someone from japan playing at hiszy will always have 200+ pings with adsl, maybe 150 with fiber.

AMEN.... u are right mate, this is also my opinion... nothing to add.

apollo-campstyle wrote:
lirbig wrote:
btw -30 is not the limit, is ..........................................................(compressed)
Someone from japan playing at hiszy will always have 200+ pings with adsl, maybe 150 with fiber.

AMEN.... u are right mate, this is also my opinion... nothing to add.

AMEN x2 true